Obsolete Calibres

This page updated 2nd April 2020


Welcome to one of our newer pages. We have been accumulating a small number of obsolete calibre firearms over the past year or so, mostly as an extension to Roger’s hobby interest in many of these old firearms!    However, due to Sheila’s insistence we (she) has decided to offer some of these for sale. Although Roger may have fired some of the rifles shown they are all offered for collecting only under Section 58 of the Firearms Act which means that no licence is required to purchase them. Should you wish to fire any of them this will be entirely at your own risk and they must be entered on your FAC before doing so and we would strongly advise that the gun is submitted to one of the Proof Houses for testing.  We should also point out that we do not claim to be experts in this field….just possessed with a total and absorbing fascination for these fine old guns! However we will try to answer any questions you may have as best we can, and will happily take further photographs of any particular part which you may require.

NB. Following recent changes to firearms legislation certain offences and lengths of custodial sentences passed means that we will need to ask purchasers of Section 58 firearms to sign a disclosure that they are not prohibited from possessing such firearms under the terms of the Violent Crime Reduction Bill 2017

Marlin .32-40 rifle in very clean condition with a good bore showing deep rifling with a little frosting throughout and is labelled “Special Smokeless Steel”. Rear sight is a Lyman aperture sight. Barrel and mag tube have around 90% original blued finish and the receiver is the typical brown/grey you expect for a rifle which we estimate was made in 1915-16….. £2,250

Gallager carbine .50cal Civil War carbine, metal shows brown & grey patina. Wood is very good. Lock plate marked Gallagers Patent Jul7 17th 1860. Manufactured by Richardson & Overman in Philadelphia.  Very good overall condition, action works correctly and patch box contains spare nipple ……  £1,750

Roberts conversion of British Enfield “Long Frame Conversion” In his book “Roberts Breechloading Firearms” by Edward Hull he describes the short and long post Civil War conversions of US muskets and Enfield rifles mostly carried out at Providence Tool & Die Company. This rifle probably saw no service and the metal parts are excellent, the wood shows only storage dings and the bore is excellent. Left side of the frame marked “Roberts Pat, June 11 1867 ….. £2,600

Sharp & Hankins 1862 Navy carbine in .52 rimfire calibre. Barrel is 24″ with good, strong rifling with some frosting and fine to light pitting in the grooves.The frame still shows traces of original case hardened finish with some freckling, light rust and spots of corrosion. Markings on either side of the frame are clear. The distinctive leather barrel cover (which is usually missing or in poor shape) remains. This may well be a contemporary replacement as it shows minor to light scuffs and cracking/crazing but it certainly looks to have been on the carbine for some time! The butt stock has a light coat of varnish over some fine to light scattered dings, marks and scratches. The butt plate is brass and is tarnished with areas of discolourisation. A fine looking and better than average Navy carbine ….. £1,750

Springfield 1861 Miller early  post Civil War .58 rimfire breechloading conversion of a 1861 rifled musket by Parker, Snow & Co and one of only 2,000 done in the 1865-67 era. This rifle is in very nice, clean original condition and has the original tulip head ramrod and a clean original stock with traces of side cartouche and a stamped rack number on the underside as well as a small inspector “H” stamp behind the trigger guard. The wood is clean and sound and the metal is original and the bore is clean as well ……… £1,600

Ball repeating carbine in .50 rimfire calibre. They were manufactured by Lamson & Co in Windsor, Vermont and only 1,002 were made for a government contract in 1864 but they received them in 1865 after the Civil War had ended. TYhis example is in all original and very good condition. The barrel is 20.5″ in length with an excellent bore. It is a seven shot lever action repeating carbine similar to the Spencer but with the magazine tube in the forend instead of the butt stock. It is marked E G Lamson & Co/Windsor VT/ Ball’s Patent/ June 23, 1863/ Mar 15, 1864 and bears inspector’s markings in the left side the butt stock and top of the wrist near the receiver. This rifle is generally considered to be a civil War weapon even though they were delivered too late to have seen service in the war….. £3,400

Martini Henry Mk II service rifle in .577/.450 calibre manufactured at Enfield in 1874 with South Australia markings and rack number 472. Shows many of the usual British inspectors markings on the metal work. Overall in good condition with typical grey finish seen on most service rifles of this vintage. The bore shows strong rifling with some frosting ….. £900   SOLD

Werndl Austro-Hungarian single shot service rifle in 11 x 42R calibre. A clean example with the metal showing brownish patina. The wood work is sound with one small crack behind the lock plate which appears to have been there for a long time. The butt plate is tarnished but still shows regimental markings. Manufactured in 1868 this rifle has an excellent bore……. £1,100

Mauser Model 71/84 service rifle in 11.15 x 60R (.43 Mauser) with tubular magazine under the barrel. Manufactured at Spandau arsenal in 1888 this rifle is in excellent condition with 95%+ of the blued metal showing early mild freckling. The receiver has the correct silver/grey finish and the bore is excellent. All numbered parts appear to be matching including the numerous small parts. A truly great example of this service rifle …. £1,400

Rogers & Spencer .44 cal black powder revolver:

A rare opportunity to acquire an original Rogers and Spencer percussion revolver. Approximately 5,000 of the revolvers were manufactured under contract for the US Government near the end of the American Civil War. However the war ended before they were delivered and almost the entire shipment was disposed of to the civilian market by the well know company of Francis Bannerman in New York. This particular revolver is numbered 4307 and shows the Government inspectors cartouche on the grips and other inspectors marks on some metal parts. The revolver shows original blue finish together with areas which have turned to a brown finish (we have tried to show this in the photographs but it’s not easy)  Mechanically the gun is in fine condition with what appears to be the original bluing still present inside the chambers of the cylinder. Most importantly the bore is in superb condition and it is possible that this example has never been fired but of course we cannot be sure of this. The cylinder lock up is superb and the nipples are undamaged, the grips show very minor chipping at the lower edges …….. £2,500  SOLD

Springfield Trapdoor .50-70 calibre rifle serial #39371. The original Model 1866 trapdoor conversions were done by machining away the breech end of the barrel from  .58 calibre Civil War muzzle loading rifle and substituting the “trapdoor” hinged breech block invented by Springfield Armory Master armorer Erskine Allin thus producing the first centrefire cartridge military rifle used by the US Army. This example of the Model 1868 rifle is in sound condition with strong rifling with minor pitting and represents one of the first newly manufactured ie non-converted trapdoor rifles.  The stock has multiple small dings and marks and no cartouches are visible but a small metal plate in the butt stock bears a number “3” which is probably a rack number and the receiver shows a 1870 date and the lock late bears a 1863 date …… £950

Merrill carbine:

This .54 cal single shot percussion carbine #9102 has a 22″ barrel with strong rifling and some pitting. It was a popular American Civil War carbine which fired a combustible cartridge, the breech being sealed by a copper plunger on the end of the lever used to open the breech. All markings are fairly clear and the whole rifle is in overall very good condition, the walnut woodwork showing very few minor dings but no cracks. There is the slightest hint of an inspector’s cartouche on the left side of the stock. The leaf rear sight is complete and the trigger guard and barrel band are brass. The iron barrel and lock plate have faded to a brown patina. The action is fine. This is a nice, clean example of a carbine purchased in some quantity by a number of Union cavalry regiments …… £2,700  (Picture to follow)

WE CURRENTLY HAVE AROUND A FURTHER TWENTY ANTIQUE OBSOLETE CALIBRE RIFLES TO ADD TO THE SITE. AND MORE DUE TO ARRIVE FROM THE US NEXT MONTH. PLEASE CHECK BACK AS WE DESPERATELY TRY TO FIND THE TIME TO ADD THEM TO OUR LISTINGS! We have Martini Henry, Smith, Werndl, Remington Creedmoor rolling block, Albini-Braendlin, Mauser 1871/84, Roberts conversion Enfield, Sharps sporting rifle, Marlin .32-40, Gallager, Model 1 1/2 Remington rolling block sporting rifle, Frank Wesson two trigger, Sharps & Hankins, Ball, Springfield Miller conversion, Starr carbine, Springfield .50-70 Trapdoors and probably others I can’t remember!

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